Jason Cook

Wed, 04 May 2022 09:19:54 -0400

jason@hub.inktada.com

This was posted in December. I don't think anything but experimental projects have been added to the kernel yet using rust, but it is still significant. Linus is also not opposed to rust. The primary issue in December was that building for Kernel required experimental features in the rust language. Most of those features, I'm guessing, will become stable and released soon, if it hasn't happened already.
#^Rust in the Linux Kernel: 'Good Enough'

Quincy Larson: Rust is now an official language for Linux development.🎉

C and C++ have lead to lots of memory safety issues over the years. Rust can prevent these. A lot of new Linux code will be in Rust.

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Mon, 30 May 2022 07:04:15 -0400

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

#^Rust Kernel Module: Getting Started

Linux-next has Rust support for a while. While it’s still not really in the mainline yet, the whole Rust stack in Linux is pretty solid already. From compiling to debugging, I can confirm the development workflow for Rust kernel modules is surprisingly seamless. In this post, I’m going to introduce you how to setup the development environment for Linux Kernel. So you can build the modules and test it.
I know setup whole kernel is incredibly cumbersome, and theoretically we can just build the modules from linux headers.

Mon, 30 May 2022 07:11:12 -0400

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

Part 2:#^Rust Kernel Module: Hello World

In previous post, we set up our environment to develop Linux kernel module in Rust. Now we can kick start our journey. Like every programming tutorial, we must start with a “Hello World” example. It is the law!
While there are already many samples under samples/rust directory, I’ll still write a simple example to showcase how to add a module to our compiled kernel. Once you learn how to do it, you can add as many as you want.

Mon, 30 May 2022 09:43:39 -0400

Cyborg 2-A ✅

wago@libertious.com

Did Lua end up in the kernel yet? I haven't kept up. Supposedly it was going to happen like 4 years ago but I don't see any updates on the GH project.
https://github.com/luainkernel

Tue, 31 May 2022 08:25:07 -0400

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

Interesting read
#^Why we chose Rust over Lua for our project?

Choosing a programming language(s) for a new product is an important strategic decision. It influences a lot of things and has long-term…

Sat, 29 Apr 2023 07:47:49 -0400

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

Linus Tarvalds, ""Rust is one of those things that I think might bring in new faces," ... "We're getting old and gray."

This is from December, but confirms that basic support for rust was implemented in kernel 6.1. This read is all the features of 6.1 including rust: #^https://www.debugpoint.com/linux-kernel-6-1/

While old (November), this details the expected function of rust in kernel 6.2: #^https://lwn.net/Articles/914458/

CURRENT: (5 days old) This is also a summary of features in kernel 6.3 including rust: #^https://www.debugpoint.com/linux-kernel-6-3/

Thu, 11 Nov 2021 08:55:53 -0500 last edited: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 19:17:14 -0400

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

I have not tried this yet, but plan to try using rust on my next Arduino project.
#^Can You Program Arduino with Rust? | Chip Wired

When getting into the programming world to develop my Arduino projects, the last thing I heard was from RUST. One of the advantages of RUSTâ€¦

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Sun, 14 Nov 2021 20:13:10 -0500

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wago@libertious.com

I would like Rust "better" when there's a real cross-platform GUI toolkit.
Are we GUI yet?

The state of building user interfaces in Rust. As a low level language, Rust is perfectly suitable for making user interfaces the old fashioned way, with native APIs. However, competing in today's world typically means supporting many platforms, and that makes using native APIs an unattractive option for many. Rust's expressiveness and high level a...

Sun, 14 Nov 2021 20:33:14 -0500

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

Concur, my use cases are currently all low level.

Although I would like to explore usage on a rust based web server.

Sun, 14 Nov 2021 21:26:10 -0500

Marshall Sutherland

dwatney@hub.farthinghalearms.com

My eldest says he is going to try to use Rust for this year's Advent of Code competition.

Sun, 14 Nov 2021 21:44:50 -0500

Cyborg 2-A ✅

wago@libertious.com

what do you mean by "rust based web server" - like run compiled rust cgi programs (probably using fastcgi) or rust is handling tcp connections (probably use reverse proxy so you don't have to handle tls, and other stuff) ? If you are delivering static content then fastcgi is pretty good, but handling authentication and per-user content (like their user account info) can be trouble.

Sun, 14 Nov 2021 21:52:08 -0500

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

I mean 100% rust pure web server.

Sun, 14 Nov 2021 22:08:44 -0500

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

(I haven't checked to see if it is fully there yet, but if not, it must be close)

Sun, 14 Nov 2021 22:25:58 -0500

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

Just a quick lookup (your link as well shows promise)
#^Are we web yet? Yes, and it's freaking fast!

AreWeWebYet gives insight on whether you can build your latest web-project on top of Rust

Sun, 14 Nov 2021 23:43:22 -0500

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wago@libertious.com

Ok. So these handle tcp connections but you need to run them behind a reverse proxy like nginx, etc.

Mon, 15 Nov 2021 07:58:31 -0500 last edited: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 08:52:59 -0500

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

I see support for tls through both rusttls and openssl. Again, I haven't really looked at web server w/ rust. I think it would just be interesting to try - my current use cases are all low level.

Mon, 15 Nov 2021 08:06:17 -0500

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

You've made me go deeper in the rabbit hole - haha. I figured they were getting close based off of the traction at low level.

#^Under the hood of Linkerd's state-of-the-art Rust proxy, Linkerd2-proxy

Thanks in part to Linkerdâ€™s performance numbers and stellar security audit report, thereâ€™s been a recent surge of interest in Linkerd2-proxy, the underlying proxy used by Linkerd. Iâ€™ve been working on Linkerd2-proxy for the majority of my time as a Linkerd maintainer so this topic is near and dear to my heart. In this article, Iâ€™m going to shed a little more light on what Linkerd2-proxy is and how it works.

Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:04:28 -0500

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wago@libertious.com

Maybe use rocket? Not sure how many users are running the code, ie finding bugs. I will check out linkerd. These rust guys are always saying stuff like 'state of the art', 'faster', 'more secure', 'more efficient' like they are running for political office or something, :)

Mon, 15 Nov 2021 10:22:52 -0500 last edited: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 10:29:08 -0500

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

These rust guys are always saying stuff like 'state of the art', 'faster', 'more secure', 'more efficient' like they are running for political office or something, :)

Agreed, it gets old.

'state of the art', 'faster', 'more secure', 'more efficient':

Low level languages like C/C++? Definitely as fast, but extremely safe in comparison.

Higher level languages like Go/Java/C#? (regarding more secure) Maybe - I don't have enough experience (yet). It all comes down to design decision outlined in chapter 4: #^https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ch04-01-what-is-ownership.html That fundamental design is magnified when using more complexity (such as threading) as outlined in chapters 15 and 16.
The lack of requiring garbage collector but giving the same functionality as Go/Java/C#/etc is definitely nice.

Mon, 15 Nov 2021 10:38:11 -0500

Cyborg 2-A ✅

wago@libertious.com

I've made some web apps in Go, it's OK but not my favorite I guess. I've been using Java lately and it's pretty much the only truly cross-platform system with a painless GUI toolkit. Java can run on pretty much anything. Also building web applications with Tomcat is pretty easy. Kotlin is pretty good too. I like C# but it's not so great on non-windows systems in my opinion. Since .NET 5 (it hink, maybe 4 too?) it is an "open source" (.NET 6 is out now), It's not likely that you can easily switch a desktop app over to Linux using .NET 6 but maybe? I have made one GUI app in C# using GTK on FreeBSD and the reality of porting it over to an MS Windows machine is - it sucks. But I think an interesting feature of having an open source .NET is creating ASP pages that run on IIS/MS Windows or Linux, FreeBSD, etc on Nginx or Apache. If you're a sadist and love ASP I guess lol. I haven't tried it yet but maybe it's cool?

Sat, 29 Apr 2023 13:42:33 -0400

Jason Cook

jason@hub.inktada.com

@Waitman Gobble I've used both Rocket and Actix-web frameworks in rust for some time now. While I like both frameworks, I seem to be more drawn towards Actix-web - maybe it is because of the all of the support libraries around it or its clean design. It could simply be because of the use cases I have been exposed to at work. It's only a slight lean though, and I do like Rocket and its features like templating and rich set of built in function.